tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5042627331437123482.post4630983897577257798..comments2023-09-22T19:46:18.734+02:00Comments on Pivní Filosof - Beer Philosopher: Shouldn't We Ban Booze First?Pivní Filosofhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17883511608403454943noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5042627331437123482.post-70878727636790181902016-07-11T18:33:57.789+02:002016-07-11T18:33:57.789+02:00Thank you for that StringersBeer. I am corrected.
...Thank you for that StringersBeer. I am corrected.<br />Graham Dineleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10544510381162295248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5042627331437123482.post-26197402175654093352016-07-11T13:48:08.583+02:002016-07-11T13:48:08.583+02:00Thanks for that info. I wouldn't be surprised ...Thanks for that info. I wouldn't be surprised if it's allowed everywhere, incl. Germany.Pivní Filosofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05525892820409340027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5042627331437123482.post-68991917085364818022016-07-11T12:23:10.318+02:002016-07-11T12:23:10.318+02:00Glyphosate is, I gather, considered acceptable for...Glyphosate <b>is</b>, I gather, considered acceptable for use on malting barley. At least <a href="https://www.campdenbri.co.uk/services/downloads/BarleyOct2013.pdf" rel="nofollow">in the UK</a>. I read that the EU is (was?) looking at extending the licence for this use at least until the report of the European Chemicals Agency next year. It's used to to promote drying of the grain pre-harvest (i.e. what they call a crop desiccant) - drying grain is expensive in fuel. (N.B. I am not a barley grower).StringersBeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12573068197944669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5042627331437123482.post-34050061498330238482016-07-10T22:19:04.253+02:002016-07-10T22:19:04.253+02:00What the hell are we talking about? For all we kno...What the hell are we talking about? For all we know, the glyphosate could be sprayed at the beginning of the crop cycle, leaving those traces in the seed. Pivní Filosofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05525892820409340027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5042627331437123482.post-71201332722416043892016-07-10T22:11:50.336+02:002016-07-10T22:11:50.336+02:00Guinness has been using roasted barley for a prett...Guinness has been using roasted barley for a pretty long time. In fact, it has become almost standard and expected to use roasted barley in stouts. Why many British beers use wheat? IIRC, it's good for head retention, or something along those lines. <br /><br />Still want to confirm that thing that glyphosate will render a grain useless for malting. It might be that there is a certain dose that would be good enough for drying it, but not kill the seed. I will have to look around. Pivní Filosofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05525892820409340027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5042627331437123482.post-18893663445855966252016-07-10T22:05:15.480+02:002016-07-10T22:05:15.480+02:00After reading the original article:
http://sustain...After reading the original article:<br />http://sustainablepulse.com/2016/02/25/german-beer-industry-in-shock-over-probable-carcinogen-glyphosate-contamination/<br /><br />I read a lot, both on their site, and others and was shocked to find that most crops are routinely glyphosated, and that it does affect the crop. It kills the plant, so the seed does not germinate, rendering it useless for malt or seeding.<br />It also affects the crumb in oats, making them unfit for rolling.<br />My point is not the danger, but the breaking of the German Beer Purity legislation. Has it now become common practise to add fructose syrups to large breweries beer? There is a tremendous secrecy about the contents of beer.<br />Most of the traditional British Beers that I used to enjoy now have wheat in them. Why? <br />Look at the labels on the cans and bottles carefully. They have changed. Guiness for example is now made from barley, not malt. The recipe has changed and it is not as it was. <br />Or am I being a conspiracist? ;-)Graham Dineleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10544510381162295248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5042627331437123482.post-46477089282384529962016-07-10T21:34:18.003+02:002016-07-10T21:34:18.003+02:00"... and so cannot be used for a malting crop..."... and so cannot be used for a malting crop."<br />That is certainly an interesting question. Do you have any sources about glyphosate's effect on malting? I'd really love to read about that. <br /><br />In any case, the issue that most people seem to have about it is that <a href="http://naturalsociety.com/glyphosate-14-beer-brands-germany-63546/" rel="nofollow">it is dangerous thing to have</a> in beer.Pivní Filosofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05525892820409340027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5042627331437123482.post-22167390593043398442016-07-10T21:17:00.961+02:002016-07-10T21:17:00.961+02:0030ppb is not toxic, but it begs the question "...30ppb is not toxic, but it begs the question "Where did it come from?". It must from from an ingredient at that level. It cannot come from the malt. Although most crops are routinely glyphosated a week before harvesting for ease, the glyphosate affects germination, and so cannot be used for a malting crop.<br />So there is more than just malt in some German beers. Could it be high fructose syrups? Victorian Brewers routinely added invert sugar to boost their gravities.Graham Dineleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10544510381162295248noreply@blogger.com